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Next message Lee Graham posted on Saturday, 04 February, 2006 - 02:20 pm
Sky LP records -
Five Live (Double Album)
Sky (1)
Sky 2 (Double Album)
Sky 3 (Double Album)
Sky 4 (Forthcoming)

I will be putting these on ebay soon, unless someone gives me a sufficient offer on here.
Next message Bill D posted on Sunday, 05 February, 2006 - 07:49 pm
Sky 3 wasn't a double album.
Next message Tim posted on Sunday, 05 February, 2006 - 10:51 pm
So if this Sky 3 IS a double album it'll merit the much used eBay epithet of *RARE*

There was a guy last week selling the first five LPs as mint which went to a single bid of 3.99 so maybe Lee might think his e-Bay fees could be better spent on a Euro-Lottery ticket...

BTW the Mozart CD mentioned recently in these alerts went for 26
Next message Lee Graham posted on Wednesday, 08 February, 2006 - 12:44 pm
Okay, my mistake, sorry.
Sky 3 is a NOT a double album.
Hm, maybe it won't be worth putting the LPs on ebay after all then. My copy of the Mozart LP isn't exactly in good condition. Maybe that I would get more selling just that LP by itself.
Next message Chris posted on Thursday, 09 February, 2006 - 01:16 pm
I'm still looking for the US/Canadian issue of the first LP, retitled Carillon, I think, as it has a gatefold sleeve with the photos and text displayed within. So frustrating to think that I had it in my hands in 1980 and didn't realise the significance of it and missed out on a golden opportunity! Never seen one since. Has anyone else seen it or does anyone else own it? I had the US/Canadian release of sky2 (retitled 'sky'), but the sleeve was so similar to the UK version that I ended up giving it away.
Next message Chris posted on Thursday, 09 February, 2006 - 01:19 pm
P.S. If I won the Eurolottery (keep failing miserably), I'd offer sky a million quid each to reform for a one-off gig at the Royal Albert Hall. My preference for the line-up would be Williams, Peek, Flowers, Fry, Monkman and Gray. But, realistically, I know this is a dream that'll probably never come true - even if my numbers did come up!!!
Next message Tim posted on Thursday, 09 February, 2006 - 06:26 pm
If you win the Euro Lottery you might as well pay them a million quid each to play at the Sydney Opera House, and have a holiday for yourself whilst you're there.....

Mind you for that fee they might play the Lloyds Arms in Grimsby.
Next message Chris posted on Thursday, 09 February, 2006 - 09:53 pm
Yeah, not a bad idea, Tim. Actually, I think they'd need a lot more than a million each to play Lloyds in Grimsby! Danger money...

Seriously though, with 126,000,000 I'd like to think that I would do something that would bring pleasure to others, even if I lost quite a bit of money as a result! It would be worth it.

Obviously this is never gonna happen, but my personal idea for such a gig would be the FM line-up doing the first half, comprising the best of their recorded material, then the SG line-up doing the second half, drawing their set from the best of their particular albums. Then, Francis would rejoin the band on stage and they would all encore with Hotta and Toccata. It's a dream, and it'll never happen, but that is what I'd pay six million quid (in band fees alone) to see...

Must remember to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow...

Next message Tim posted on Friday, 10 February, 2006 - 12:20 am
That doing something to bring pleasure to others, does that include your guest spots on harpsichord and drums?
Next message Chris posted on Friday, 10 February, 2006 - 10:59 am
I dread to think what kind of suffering that would inflict upon all those within earshot. No, I'd just bag myself a front row seat and enjoy the show! (Which I shall continue to do, in my imagination...inbetween buying losing lottery tickets and keeping an eye on eBay for that elusive first album...)
Next message Harald posted on Friday, 10 February, 2006 - 01:41 pm
Well, all I know is that Francis would be in, even without the 1 million quid.
Next message Chris posted on Friday, 10 February, 2006 - 03:46 pm
That's good news!

Seriously, I can't see a sky reunion ever happening (mind you, I thought that about The Shadows!!!), but if I had an enormous amount of money - enough to stage and promote such an event properly - then I would definitely approach them all and ask them if they were interested. Whilst I doubt that anyone of them needs the money, I would love to be able to offer them a significant incentive to step back in time and effectively relive their collective past. Maybe one or two of them wouldn't fancy the idea at any price, but it would be worth a try and would make for a fantastic experience (I hope) for all concerned.
Next message Bill D posted on Friday, 10 February, 2006 - 08:15 pm
I share the wistful hopes but it smacks of the faint, fruitless hopes that Beatles would ever re-unite. (Dream on, guys.)

There's an old John Lennon contract, supposedly signed not long before he was killed, up for auction. It was for several million and concerned getting them all back together, with Paul and Ringo playing on John's sessions and George coming in later.

Pop Quiz: What was the first track which featured all three (Paul, George and Ringo) performing after John died? (And it was long before "Anthology".)

[If no-one knows this, you'll have to wait because I'm off to Dallas tomorrow! Won't be back until the 16th.]
Next message Tim posted on Saturday, 11 February, 2006 - 09:40 am
George Harrison said "there will never be a Beatles reunion so long as John stays dead", in retrospect not one of his peaks of dryness.

I'm glad you didn't say performed together because they were never in the same studio at the same time. And I thought records made by people who never met were a new phenomenon - obviously not, as it was done all those years ago. By the way, what was the song?

Talking of Ringo Starr, someone once told me (without a hint of irony) that the bloke who narrated Thomas the Tank had been a drummer and wondered what band he'd been in. Oh the price of fame!

And that is why Sky will probably not reunionise, because they've all moved on and done other things. I really don't think they're the sort of guys who want to get trapped into a career of reliving a part of their past - unlike those bands for whom the 17th final reunion tour is the norm (until next year it'll be the 18th).
Next message Chris posted on Saturday, 11 February, 2006 - 11:31 am
Could it have been 'All Those Years Ago'? Could that really have been the answer hidden away in your last posting, Tim? Nah, surely not as simple as that...?

(With regards the sky reunion - looks like I'll have to spend my lottery winnings on something else, then. Gotta keep buying them tickets, just in case...)
Next message Harald posted on Saturday, 11 February, 2006 - 11:43 am
Hey, where is all that negativity regarding a Sky reunion coming from. I am not giving up hope yet. As far as I remember, Steve Gray in the (old) forum a while ago, did not seem completely opposed to such an idea even though he raised some concerns. And as I said Francis would probably not say no. Did any of the other band members ever say that his Sky involvement is a closed chapter? And as long as this is not the case, there should better be some hope.

And yes, there are legal, tax, and other issues involved here that I have probably no idea of. But from my point of view no one has ever REALLY pursued the reunion idea. I have the feeling that most if not all band members have fond memories of Sky and so a reunion (a single concert - to promote rereleases of old material or even a new CD) is not completely out of the question...
Next message Chris posted on Saturday, 11 February, 2006 - 03:09 pm
Good point, Harald.

For many years it seemed unlikely to say the least that The Shadows would ever reunite. There was some well publicised bad feeling between Hank and Bruce, even to the point where they did not speak for about fifteen years. And then, thanks to Brian Bennett initiating a reconciliation, it happened! They toured the UK and Europe and, by all accounts, had a brilliant time and enjoyed every minute of it. More or less the same thing happened with Duran Duran, when original members Andy Taylor and Roger Taylor forgot about past differences with the others and the band got back together again.

I am not aware that any members of sky have fallen out, so to speak, and, although they have all moved on in their private and personal lives, there's nothing wrong with a little bit of nostalgia now and again.

I kind of 'suspect' that a sky reunion won't ever happen... but, having said that, there is always a chance and I will remain hopeful.
Next message Tim posted on Saturday, 11 February, 2006 - 08:01 pm
Harald's "legal, tax and other issues" reminds of the Gershwin quote about which came first, the words or the music.

Musical reunions have all sorts of motivations - nostalgia, wanting the big stage again, break-up of relationships, being in debt, boredom, lack of new ideas, topping up the pension plan, getting old and sentimental, agent pressure, publicising the autobiography... Like getting back together with your ex, a lot of people will tell you it's not a good idea.

Creative musicians are always looking for what to do next rather than just go through the same old stuff again (for some doing something different is the same old songs plus a bit part in a soap opera). So it's not just money, not just nostalgia, but can be about changing a life-time's mantra of 'don't look back, you can never look back' (oh alright, 'after the boy-oys of summer have go-one...').

"All those years ago". Let's wait for Bill to return to confirm whether that was a hidden answer or a red herring.

If you don't know the quote, Ira Gershwin's answer was 'the contract'. Another lyricist, Sammy Cahn, said 'the request'.

The request? A Sky reunion - please!!
Next message Bill D posted on Friday, 17 February, 2006 - 11:56 am
Yes, it was "All Those Years Ago". Ringo on drums (in the studio with George). Paul and Linda were sent tapes to add backing vocals.
Next message Steve Gray posted on Monday, 20 February, 2006 - 01:02 pm
I personally wouldn't want to be involved in a reunion, but of course I'm not one of the original five. However if anyone wants to see Herbie, he tells me he's part of the orchestra touring with Jeff Wayne's 'War Of The Worlds'.
Next message Bill D posted on Monday, 20 February, 2006 - 03:01 pm
Why not?

Ringo Starr wasn't one of the original four (or five)...! :-)
Next message Chris posted on Monday, 20 February, 2006 - 04:30 pm
The idea of 'War of the Worlds' performed live intrigues me. I bought the double album back in the early 80s and feel that I really ought to upgrade to the new special edition CD that came out last year. I imagine that there'll be plenty of onscreen CGI projected onto a huge screen, so the results will be quite spectacular. Nice to know that Herbie is involved, as I'm sure he was on the original.
Next message Tim posted on Tuesday, 21 February, 2006 - 08:05 am
I quite understand SG not wanting to be part of a re-union - re-unions only happen when the time is right for people, and the time has never been right for me to go to an old school reunion (and that's a lot less work / commitment than re-forming a band, especialy one like Sky who used more than three chords). As to not being one of the original five Steve, well that never stopped any of Fairport Convention.

'War of the Worlds' will be a bit big for the Lloyd Arms, Chris, so Nottingham or Sheffield will be your nearest. Nottingham... oh dear! Perhaps you'll be safer going to Sheffield.
Next message Chris posted on Tuesday, 21 February, 2006 - 04:56 pm
Strangely enough, I have seen one or two 'wars' going on in Lloyds. Better say no more about that. But, unlike the TARDIS, it isn't exactly bigger on the inside, so it would be difficult getting Jeff Wayne and ensemble in there, I imagine... (Mind you, I'd love to see it getting blown to bits by a Martian Tripod!) Which reminds me, there is actually a pub/club just down the road in Cleethorpes called the TARDIS bar! So...
Next message Steve Gray posted on Wednesday, 22 February, 2006 - 02:31 pm
Just to clarify what I meant about the 'original five' - I wouldn't want to take part in a reunion but that doesn't rule out the original members doing it. Personally I don't see it (though ask again when you've got the 6 million, Chris. Was that after tax, BTW?)
Next message Chris posted on Wednesday, 22 February, 2006 - 08:35 pm
Steve, yes - I guess I'd have to let the taxman have his little share before I was in a position to count it as my own. So, yes, after tax!!! Which means I'd probably have to win about 26,000,000 to make it at all worthwhile!

Realistically it's never gonna happen. But dreams do come true.

See the separate post I'm about to make in a new thread...

Next message Chris posted on Wednesday, 22 February, 2006 - 10:04 pm
Sorry, Steve. Just realised what your question meant!

Yes, if I was ever in a position to do so, then I'd pay/offer to pay each original member of sky (and yourself if you ever changed your mind!) a million quid each (after tax!) to reform for a one off! I'd hope to record the gig and release it on DVD - thus making back a little bit of my investment. Speaking of which, better invest in a Euromillions ticket again on Friday! Fingers crossed...

Forgive me for being a bit slow on the uptake - must be a bit tired tonight from various things and, of course, the excitement of getting my hands on a certain sky-related item which was waiting for me when I got home...

Next message Tim posted on Wednesday, 22 February, 2006 - 11:51 pm
Chris, you clearly need some tax advice here! To pay each of the five (six) one million after tax you'd be looking at 1.8 million each before tax at least - so you'll need to factor that in.

Don't worry about your own tax liability - lottery winnings are tax free, but you'll be paying tax on the interest (assuming you don't the money in a biscuit tin under the mattress). The government hopes the shock of winning will be a fatal surprise so they can take a large cut as Inheritance Tax...
Next message Chris posted on Thursday, 23 February, 2006 - 03:37 pm
Thanks for the advice, Tim. How much do I owe you? Maths has never been one of my strong points and I've never had to worry about those sums of money!

The inheritance tax issue seems to be a hot one at the moment; I hope there's a way around it - trust funds, for example.

With regards the lottery; I suppose I'm as likely to win 5,000,000 as I am 125,000,000 - i.e., not very! But, if it's the latter, then 1.8 million x5 isn't going to make much of a dent in my nestegg! Speaking of which, I must go out tomorrow and buy a big biscuit tin and a much bigger matress...just in case...
Next message Tim posted on Friday, 24 February, 2006 - 12:09 am
How much do you owe me Chris? My standard fee is 3.75% - I've heard people say it's exorbitant, but accountants have to be compensated for working in one of the least respected professions in the UK (along with lawyers and estate agents).

Perhaps you need an exercise in practical maths - as a 20 note measures 80 X 149 mm (the default paper size for my printer) how big a biscuit tin would you need to store 125 million?

Incidentally if you did win 125 million what could you do with it? The Sky's the limit...
Next message Tim posted on Sunday, 26 February, 2006 - 07:49 pm
PS I'm not really an accountant. Don't worry.
Next message Chris posted on Monday, 27 February, 2006 - 08:39 am
...That's a shame. I was going to hire you to balance my books when I win all those euro millions. Oh well.
Next message Tim posted on Monday, 27 February, 2006 - 11:14 pm
OK. I'll re-train for a new profession, I'm sure I'll have finished the course before you win...

" Mr Flowers needs a personal electrician to wire fairy lights onto his tuba so that's a legitimate business expense (with all that spit around Health and Safety regulations require professional installation); and Mr Williams does need elephant hoof polish for his nails, I know it's more expensive, but with all those notes he plays, horse's hoof really isn't strong enough...
...and yes, Mr Fry did need 18 toms in his kit, the only reason you didn't see him use the 4" tom is because your view was obscured by the crash cymbal...
...I agree Mr Monkman didn't use the E flat three octaves below middle C on any of his keyboards, but there would have been additional expense having his keyboards built without that note..."

I'm beginning to think I missed my vocation.
Next message ben howard  posted on Tuesday, 14 March, 2006 - 09:29 pm
Shame to read Steve's views against being involved in a reunion. What a lot of enjoyment we've all got from sky over the years. Even have my 13 and 10 year old boys watching the videos and dvds. Taken them to Herbie and Richard Durrant concerts which theyve enjoyed. Have tickets ready for War of the Worlds. Reckon a lot of people ready for, at the least, a one-off concert. Isn't it the 25th anniversary of Westminster Abbey? Perhaps JW will never be involved but as HF and RD already tour together, there's some hope! Let's get together and make it happen!
Next message releaseme88 posted on Tuesday, 04 April, 2006 - 09:52 pm
So.. Anyone want to buy some records?
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